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Joe insulted the guy on his show, that was a shitty thing to do, and to his credit he apologized for that on multiple occasions. Now Isaac was obviously very annoyed about this and had to listen to the comments over again before talking and now he gets to set the record straight. Also both hands discussed were so standard that I don't understand why they even needed to be discussed in the first place last year, other then Sebok was just frustrated and blowing off steam. However, Sebok apologized many many times and Haxton cant seem to let it go. I admit Joe handled himself in a classy manner and Isaac was maybe a little too venomous considering the general atmosphere but I completely disagree with the douche comments. I like Sebok, but he gets on my nerves in that show sometimes. He was right about the KJ hand- Sebok should be thinking about the range of hands he'd be racing against. Is there video footage of "Haxtongate"?? Additionally, I was listening to every show involving "Haxtongate" last summer. And I do remember them having Kenny Tran on the show during the controversy and he was just adding flames to the fire. We all should respect what Joe and Barry are doing with the pokerroad. Like I said, I havent listened to it yet. I have no idea what anyone is talking about. Ike is clearly much much more knowledgable about poker and the better player and yet Joe Sebok called him out and a hell of a lot of people would have heard this. For him to react in the way he did to the recordings of Sebok's comments was unnecessary and pretty uncomfortable to listen to. Join the conversation You can post now and register later. Meanwhile, just about everything Gavin Smith says is gold but he often has to cut Sebok off to be able to speak. I agree he could have been a little less arrogant but I think he would only come across as a total douche if : 1. Why would I possibly act like I could possibly know or have played with Joe. Of course it seems if your name isnt Ivey or Brunson, you dont get much respect in this community if you are a live player. Clear editor. Basically Ike owned Seebok, i don't know how BarryG could have taught such a nonthinking poker playing son That being said Seebok owned Ike in the class and respectability part of the interview, how he conducted himself has made me think very highly of mr. There's no way around that when one of the players are all-in. Although its pretty obvious Ike is a much better overall player too. But christ the shit happened 7 months ago, this was Haxton's chance to take the high road, explain his thought process in the hands the two were involved in, and let by gones be by gones. He was completely correct though and basically owned Sebok. He could have gotten the same point across in a much more tactful way, then I think he would have truly pwnd Sebok. Sebok is horrible at poker and a jerk. Upload or insert images from URL. Haxton isn't discussing calculus equations, he's talking about basic arithmetic and basic hand ranges. You really just solidify your douchieness by being a bitch about the situation IMO. Just listen to the show again and the recorded sections of Joe from the archive with the original comments. I accept.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Like I said, I never disagreed with Haxton's play, nor am I defending Seboks reaction on his show after the tourney. Its laughable how the interview played out really, but Haxton just made himself look like a real ass by choosing to act the way he did. Haxton came off a little abrasive, but I think thats probably just a product of not having ton a lot of radio before and, you know, talking to a guy who called you a retard. Everyone expects me to play like a maniac so I'll always lead out". If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. IgorK Previous: Dattebayo Previous: 9. I liked Isaac a lot. You can post now and register later. SvZff Previous: Sign In Sign Up. He even admits himself he was thoroughly out of line especially since he was so wrong and looked stupid. Sure he sounds arrogant as hell but he is totally correct and basically he pwns Sebok imo. Saying "oh I'm not a math guy" seems like a bad excuse for getting out of a conversation where you might be wrong. You got me. My main problem is that Sebok refutes everything with "oh well I'm not a math guy so I can't discuss that with you". Posted January 8, Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2. In addition to being a cool guy, and a class act, I have only seen evidence of him having a tremendous amount of talent and knowledge. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}That Haxton was giving a terrific interview until they get to the World Series drama about last year and he turns into super-douche. Although Ike is clearly the more knowledgeable player and completely destroyed Sebok's reasons for calling him a retard etc, he comes across as a total nerdy, arrogant prick, which in a perverse way reinforces Sebok's original estimation of him. For all his faults as a poker player and i'm sure there are more than a few at least Sebok conducted himself with a degree of class that is completely alien to Ike. Display as a link instead. Posted January 6, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. Again, just my opinion. How do you think Ike would react? Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. For every poker question, even when he doesn't know the answer, he always has to be first to respond. Sebok apologized multiple times last year and on the show yesterday. Iam sure they not making money from this just doing it for the love of the game. Yes, he explained his thought process, but why did he have to go and insult the guy to his face after all this time. He makes a standard raise pre, Haxton shoves with AT and looses. Joe Sebok isn't that good, just listen to him talk about poker Played 2 years is that really bad??? Very next hand Sebok opens with 99 and Haxton shoves again, Sebok thinks and calls, Haxton shows KJ or KQ cant remember , either way he spikes one of his overcards and gets his chips back. Just a few completely standard reshoves that Sebok did not understand. You don't understand how right he is. Only 75 emoji are allowed. He was a little venomous and arrogant but my point is there was a good reason for that. I haven't listened to this segment either, but in past segments on the show he has proven that he has a lot of fundamental flaws in his game. So called Haxton out for but why Haxton takes this so serious i do not understand. I see where he was coming from in his play, and I also enjoyed hearing his side of the story, that was great. From what I have read in this thread, whatever Joe said originally was wrong, even according to him. Recommended Posts. I mean when you are considering whether he is being a super-douche or not remember the context, Ike is dealing with the Joe Sebok who called him out for bad play at the World Series. I agree he could have been a little less arrogant but I think he would only come across as a total douche if :. Paste as plain text instead. Gambler this is nothing about Sebok's all around ability this is just about a leak he has about not understanding some basic poker mathematics. Im not sure why everyone is flaming Joe's poker playing ability. You don't understand the history here with Sebok calling him out. Question 0. I dont argue with his logic, I just think the way he handled the interview which was, I believe, intended to officially just clear the record and clean the slate between the two was ultra douchey. Sometimes pointed out by Gavin and Joe usually just says "yeah whatever Just got around to listening to the interview, and it certainly delivered. Whether you agree with his play in the specific tourny or not, why not just let little shit like that go? I understand his logic and the history. That being said, of course Haxton had a reason to be pissed about the situation. Answer this question Insert image from URL. I guess the responses bashing Joe's game here are based on his comments in those segments, as I would not understand the lack of respect if they werent. I'm not sure why you're acting like you know what you're talking about. I havent listened to the segment yet. Its also possible what he said may have come across as dumb or uninformed.