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However, in craps, where certain bets can be ties, there are multiple ways to determine house advantage. I left it out of my original description by accident. That looks like a good vig, and indeed it is in terms of how slowly you will lose money as a percentage of what you bet. If you manage to convince proponents of the system that the overloading represents a risk and therefore is a flaw in the system, they will likely suggest that the chances of the same number being rolled twice in a row are low. If indeed the point never repeats itself, the overloading is irrelevant and our advantage over the house is secure. This will be discussed below under hedging. In fact, we can calculate the odds as Does it sound too good to be true? This method yields the house advantage including ties as money wagered and is especially nice for a casino to predict its expected income over time from a certain wager. While the rules of craps are carefully designed such that no combination of bets can ever give the player an advantage, there are combinations of bets which could be called betting systems which improve your odds above those of the individual bets again based on certain interpretations and terminologies only. Using the definition of house advantage which includes ties as money wagered, we can even say that no betting system can alter the house advantages in any way, in your favor or against you. If a 7 or 11 is rolled as the first roll you lose your wager. But some gamblers incorrectly assume that a number is less likely to be rolled if it was just rolled. Accounting for this major flaw, our remaining Oh well. In this method, we look at only the payouts to and from the player without regard for how much was wagered, and calculate a house advantage based on the ratio of wins and loses. A vigorish or house advantage is a semi-standard way to measure how fair a bet is to the player. In this case we can simply use the method of not counting ties. I stated the house advantages and returns on amounts bet without yet justifying them. While the five will repeat only once in 81 plays, so will the 9. This table yields a standard vigorish of 1. Some people prefer to not count ties as money wagered. In other words, when you play the system of always placing these two bets two of the best odds bets in all of organized gambling when played separately , you turn it into the worst bet in all of gambling! A purist might point out that the house advantage including ties is actually a respectable 1.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} But note half the money you bet is hedged against the other half! Note that the results correspond precisely with accepted published values and therefore help verify our methods. So this solution to the problem is at best a comfort measure. Systems, especially craps systems, can be measured in terms of house advantage either including or excluding ties, yielding a number that we can use to compare to other forms of betting. Craps has something similar. So why do they have craps tables at all? It is either the chance of the repeat point being made again vs. And when examining a craps system where multiple bets are played simultaneously, it can get even more arbitrary and confusing. One thing that is special about the game of craps is that a number of very different wagers are placed simultaneously whose outcomes are dictated by the same rolls of dice. In other words, not all wagers are independent. This is false reasoning. When we do the math, we find that when 12s are accounted for on the Come Out roll, our anticipated advantage over the house is reduced from That might tip us off that more disappointments are to come. In the case where the bet varies, this is a weighted average of the total bet en-route to each possible outcome. First of all, the result of this analysis should not surprise us because betting systems simply do not work, at least not in the sense of changing the house advantage into a player advantage. The amount won or lost is always even money and the same regardless of the point, so no further weighting of the result is necessary. Here I give you for free a system that unscrupulous or ignorant people have sold to millions, and I also give you the explanation of why my price is the right one! However, some people play both of these bets simultaneously thinking that it reduces the house advantage to zero because every play will be a tie. Each row represents a possible combination of events and the combined probability of the event. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Unfortunately, this system, like all craps systems, does not deliver its promise and leaves the player at the mercy of the standard house advantages. In reality, what you actually lose in case 2 is not your bet, but the income needed to compensate for eventual loses of the Odds bets and hence to make 1 true. It calculates the probability of winning under each circumstance. Reviewing and ultimately debunking this system is a rewarding exercise in probabilities and is also an intriguing demonstration of what makes systems compelling to gamblers. But what happened to the idea that Odds bets are always fair and never cause us to win or lose over the long run? In the simplest of terms, if a certain bet has a house advantage of 5. This system proposes a simple process to accomplish this, placing you firmly in control with no chance to lose over an extended length of play. In very simple games like American Roulette, the vigorish is straight-forward. The result is the true house advantage which unfortunately is a disadvantage to the player. Because of this basic true and well-known fact about Odds bets, this step of the system does not appear to involve any risk to the player. The first two are minor and relatively simple. And if a 12 is rolled you push. They can merely manipulate volatility. This gives rise to the lure that a combination of bets placed in a certain way at the same time, could in concept improve your odds by decreasing the house advantage. There are three catches with this system. Proponents of the system simply dismiss the combined effect of overloading. But the low frequency of a twelve, rolled only once in 36 plays, does seems like a compelling defense against it being a major flaw in this system and seems to be worth examining further. This is the probability that determines the result of the final come bet if it is not eliminated in roll two. One column that requires some explanation is the column labeled P3. The minute they hear of this system, every casino in the world will close down their craps tables! For example, a five comes up once in 9 rolls, therefore it repeats only once is 81 sequences of two rolls. Each line in the table represents a possible outcome of the play and the probability of that outcome. And the final weighted winning probability is 0. Recall that we assume the Odds bets are always fair and represent no risk. The most standard way to calculate a house advantage is to sum the average return of all possible outcomes, weighted by the probability of each individual outcome and divide by the average bet. The sum of these two columns are the total average winning return 2. That is to say the payout exactly matches the odds of winning. Yet there are some interesting subtleties when it comes to craps. It eliminates the perceived player advantage and restores the house advantage. Some people think this alone is a system that lets them play indefinitely without losing, like putting equal amounts on red and black in roulette. Above is the event table representing the ideal conditions suggested by proponents of this system. In other words, there are ways to play normal wagers, that gives the house more or less of an advantage. They reduce the potential advantage that the player can supposedly achieve over the house. By tallying our expected wins or losses per roll we can predict exactly what the value of the system is to us or the house without too much emphasis placed on the definition of house advantage. Another way to think of this is from the time that a point is established and we have an Odds bet at risk, the chances that the point will repeat is more often than one in 9! The probability of winning is converted to a vigorish by multiplying by two and subtracting from 1. For more on this click here. In explanation of the table, note that a play consists of one roll if the bet is resolved on the come-out, a second roll that establishes a point, and then as many rolls as needed to resolve the final bet in the event that the play is not resolved on the second roll. Proponents of the system correctly point out that this will only happen in one Come Out roll out of 36, and this relatively rare risk is a small price to pay for the other 35 plays that are all very much in your favor. If a 2 or 3 is rolled you win. The 4 will repeat once in plays, as will the And the 6 will repeat once in about 52 plays as will the 8. Without taking any risk, you have a bet that is in your favor! Savvy players understand that the 12 is one of the worst bets on the table house advantage of Adding a bad bet to hedge another bet never works discussed later. This is a matter of preference, even among experts. The sum of the probabilities of winning in each of the six ways is 0. From then on until the bet is resolved as a winner or loser , a 7 that wins the bet is more likely to be rolled than the point number that loses the bet. However, because systems tend to use hedging extensively, the house advantage can appear relatively good due to the more money wagered, but still be worse in terms of your ability to win. The third is the true flaw of the system. This third flaw is also more subtle and difficult to explain. Nevertheless this particular system has many avid followers. It simply increases the odds in favor of the house. Whether or not this case is covered in descriptions of the strategy varies. How to Play the System. It has an interesting premise and appeals to seasoned players and their understanding of the game.